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Originally I just wanted to talk about the symbolism of wearing black but it can be pretty much summed up in one line so I decided to expand on the subject with the symbolism of masks as well, ergo the title. In the end the topic ran away from me and became a little more than I bargained for as I had to start considering more and more implications of what I was considering. The last few paragraphs dealing with Rebis, First Matter and etc should be probably read with some reservations as I dealt with some aspects that I myself have yet to systematically lay out in order to understand them better and I may have actually realized that or to the contrary confused myself, so input is welcome. 

 

In our Worldview we can isolate three particular symbolic colors that create a particular hierarchy: black, white and red - in that order (one might think back to the flag of the German Empire as it has those colors in that specific order). You have the same colors designating the stages of the Royal Art (Alchemy) in the same order: Black Work (initiatic death where the philosopher's soul is freed from the body), White Work (initiatic rebirth where the soul has been made incorruptible), Red Work (return of the soul to the body thus producing the Philosopher's Stone i.e. philosopher's body). Finally, and most relevant to what will be discussed in this thread, the same colors appear in some ritualized initiations into knighthood: after bathing a knight first puts on the black coat, symbolizing the death of his inferior nature, then he dons the white coat, symbolizing new purity and then he dresses in red, symbolizing supreme male strength that is found in the heroic days of bloody sacrifice in the name of the spirit.

 

The latter is of most relevance in the sense that such knightly orders most likely had some relation to the teachings of our worldview (like the Knights Templar, though I'm not sure if they practiced this same ritual or not), meaning that they too most likely belong to the same Invisible Army as Fascists.

 

While I wouldn't argue that Mussolini purposely had the same kind of symbolism in mind when he formed the Blackshirts, it still works out in line with our Worldview even if by accident or by an innate hunch that Mussolini had but couldn't verbalize its true meaning as expressed in our teachings. In the sense of temporal movement symbolism the Black becomes the symbol of rejecting the Modern World, tantamount to rejecting one's own inferior nature and samsaric influences, making it a declaration of War in both the Lesser war and the Holy War meaning of it, i.e. a temporal war against the reign of falsehoods in the material world and a spiritual war waged within oneself for the liberation of the Self. The Black is the very color of our Struggle in all its forms, while the Red can be called the symbolic color of our end goals in same respects of both external-material and inner-spiritual Victory.

 

When speaking of our Worldview I have repeatedly talked about the eternal character that it possesses, which is why the concept of an Invisible Army is possible in the first place, that people who fight for this worldview belong to the same cause that transcends time and space, thus it transcends us as individuals, even though the temporal manifestation of our worldview would create the only conditions where it is possible for everyone to discover who they truly are, making them not merely individuals but real persons. The very goal of transcendence implies complete freedom from all bindings that confuse the Self as to its true nature and thus allow for it to become truly liberated from everything in both material and spiritual terms, which comes after the completion of the Red Work.

 

For us donning the Black symbolizes the rejection, struggle against and the death of our inferior nature, of our Self's samsaric bindings. If one thinks back to the Myth of Narcissus in its true meaning of Narcissus falling in love with the materialist reflection of his Self and then drowning, donning the Black becomes tantamount to Narcissus struggling against the influence of his material reflection. Likewise in Buddhism the Black Work is in some respect explained via the mantra "I am not this, this is not mine, this is not my self."

 

All of this can find a new reflection in temporal movements of today in wearing a mask, something that has also been rather prevalent in modern fascist movements. One can argue that our enemies also wear masks but the principles applied are entirely different. To them wearing a mask is all about anonymity and protection of their temporal identity, the motivations are samsaric as is what they protect: they wear the mask to protect themselves as material beings so as to not suffer material punishments. They want anonymity to protect the Narcissus reflected by the waters.

 

For us Fascists wearing the mask becomes/must be understood as something else or as something more than just prudent action of self-preservation against the System while we lead our struggle.

 

Foremost it becomes a means of symbolizing the eternal nature of our ideals - they cannot be expressed by any one man and thus cannot have any one face define them, we do honor those who have lead us in the temporal struggle as Heroes but even so they cannot represent the entirety of our worldview unless we talk about the Emperor of the World, however even he must pass as a material being and thus a new one would appear over time, meaning that faces still fade. The mask thus represents the eternal character of our worldview and defines us as members of the Invisible Army who hold the Invisible Banner - the mask then holds the same symbolic principle as those two concepts.

 

Next, it further declares our rejection of the material world and its influence over us. We look in the mirror and say "I am not this, this is not mine, this is not my self" and thus cover the reflection with the mask so as to reject that illusion that had lead to Narcissus' demise - in his struggle against his material reflection Narcissus dons the mask. When our enemies put on the mask they do so to protect their reflection whereas we do it to reject it for the sake of liberating our true Self.

 

What our own faces symbolize speaks of our personal truth which is of course made up of a variety of truths that define who we are by means of our vocation, sex, ethnicity, race and so on, all of which combine in material form that can lead us astray from the deeper meaning behind our nature. To truly live by one's personal truth they have to either undergo transcendence or live in a temporal Organic State, both of which can be done in the active struggle against the Modern World. Thus rejection of inferior nature goes hand in hand with understanding and liberation of our deeper, superior nature and so the mask becomes on an individual level both the symbol of rejecting the inferior individuality for the sake of discovering one's inner truth that reflects his person.

 

Finally, there is another way of looking at the mask as a means of symbolizing the transcendental source, deeper spiritual energies that via individuation form the Self in the first place, meaning that the mask becomes a variation on symbolism for the alchemical First Matter from which everything originated, otherwise also symbolized by the Hermetic androgyne Rebis (that finds another symbolic interpretation in the Greek myths of how Zeus was born and married his own mother) that is closely associated with Antimony a.k.a. Magnesia, leaden Marcasite, black earth with white eyes - all symbols that have to do with the rejection of the bodily bindings and transcendence.

 

In a sense these are all symbols of the human condition, of that double nature hidden within and symbolized in the Hermetic Rebis "made of body and either white or red spirit", First Matter before its split into Male and Female Principles after which the correct order is for the Male Principle is to come and dominate the Female Principle as is symbolized by Zeus marrying his own Mother that was First Matter prior to his birth and then the Female Principle after his birth (their separation).

 

I might've gone a bit too deep here with the symbolism but I wanted to impart how connected all these symbols are (to a point of speaking about the same thing completely) and thus justify my proposal for the Black Mask becoming a similar symbol that encompasses all the same characteristics as previous traditional symbols and how it is applicable in our struggle as both practical and symbolic apparel as well as, to some extent, a possible new ritualistic device (giving it a new, immaterial practical quality) the same way donning the black robe was for initiation into knighthood.

 

Thus I propose to you the Black Mask, the symbol of the Worldview we fight for in temporal reality, the symbol of our association with the Invisible Army, the symbol of our internal struggle for liberating and understanding our true Self, the symbol of where we all come from, the window into the eternal as well as the symbol of the lesser war we wage.

 

But you know, without going full masktism about it and turning it into a mere fetish in the mystical sense of the word.

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Oh my that's a mouthful of words most people don't even know what mean, Alexander i appreciate your work but you gotta admit this is way to fringe for anyone whos familiarity with the fascist worldview is completely average.

 

You know some ideology with pros and cons corporatism, nationalism, ect. And then coming to I'M, greeted by this.

 

how you gonna explain all this in your book?

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Traditionally, the color black corresponds to saturn, which is the principle of death, contraction and restraint, as well as time. I think that as we advance through the ages, the type of person/character suited for the eternal struggle changes also. In the golden age, solar men (men with energy, love, men who give without restraint) would be at the forefront, but as the world becomes more decayed and chaotic, intellectuals and philosophers would attain prominence (mercurial men), and then martial men (men skilled in violence). Finally, in our degenerate age of today, all the tendencies of the world manifest in noxious ways: solary tendencies will make people care for third world dumps rather than their own families, martial tendencies will be channelled into video games and jew wars, venerial tendencies are manifested by wanton sex and porn addiction, mercurial tendencies by pseudo-intellectualism and obsession with fiction and gadgets, lunar tendencies by escapism...

 

In our current age, the only force left is the saturnian power: the power of restraint. In a degenerate world, the man who restrains his lower impulses becomes a god among his peers. We're surrounded by entertainment, sugary foods, porn, pop music, convenient and fast everything, constant electronic stimulation to escape boredom at all cost... All of this is a poison which makes us slugs. Inversely, fortifying ourselves and rejecting those things, even a few of them, gives us power, power even greater than our ancestors could have had, because they never had to deal with our temptations.

 

The color black represents restraint, and thus a rejection of easy pleasure, of addiction to convenience and sloth. The saturnian power is the antithesis of the modern world, which is about "freedom" to deviate from the right path, and it's that power which above all others is necessary to return to the right path. In the past, people had to go out of their way to deviate from a normal healthy life to become degenerate, now it's the opposite.

 

For me, restraint (and thus a rejection of the modern world) has always been a struggle. I'm constantly experimenting with different restrictions on my habits to see what effects they have. The more extreme the restrictions, and the more rigid the adherence to them, the greater then mental strength I derive from it. And once I screw up and fall back into bad habits, I get a kick-back effect where my mind can feel hazy for weeks or months at a time.

 

I'll eventually make a topic about this - about the power of making oaths and following them, and how this is related to fascism.

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Oh my that's a mouthful of words most people don't even know what mean, Alexander i appreciate your work but you gotta admit this is way to fringe for anyone whos familiarity with the fascist worldview is completely average.

 

You know some ideology with pros and cons corporatism, nationalism, ect. And then coming to I'M, greeted by this.

 

how you gonna explain all this in your book?

 

There's two things you've grown to be exceedingly good at: posting threads in the wrong fucking subforums and posting questions that have literally just been recently answered in dedicated threads (this is your second time doing this). Also obviously this is the deeper end of the pool here but our introductory materials for newcomers are organized in a specific order that suggests how one eases into such fields of knowledge.

 

 

 

Traditionally, the color black corresponds to saturn

 

Just to make a note here, Saturn has a double aspect, it is "the "ancient" and the "divine" (or sulfurous) and at the same time it is inverted Gold - Lead - as the vulgar body; it is the father of our Stone and that of the Philosophers".

 

"What in appearance is the most worthless of the four entities - Saturn - is actually the most precious because it bears within itself the "traces" or "memories" or "signatures" of "the state of being" (the Golden Age), while other more subtle modes of the human entity correspond to states already derived from a disempowered condition."

 

"Boehme explains that Lead and Gold are produced in Saturn by the same power and adds: "It is not death but an enclosure that represents the divine celestial essence." "

 

From a text by Isaac the Hollander: "In truth, Saturn is the stone that the ancient philosophers did not want to name." "Nothing does it lack, but to be cleaned of its impurity; its interior must be made exterior that is to say, its Redness must be brought out and then it will be an excellent Sun."

 

"After the sowing comes the growing, symbolized by the seasons: after the black winter follow the clear spring, red summer and golden autumn, whereupon the fruit is ripe and can be picked. These are the four traditional hermetic colors used to designate the phases of the Great Work. The three last correspond respectively to the resurrection of the states of consciousness of nonterrestrial entities - [impure mercury], [double/pure mercury] and [sun and gold] - enclosed in the human Earth {Saturn}; and said resurrection in turn is equivalent to the backward movement sub specie interioritatis through the three eras that precede the "Age of Iron" until we arrive at the golden age of Saturn".

 

By all means Saturn is the equal symbol to the symbols I mention in the OP, like the Rebis, the human condition prior to transcendence, as is indicated by it being an equal symbol to Earth and Salt and them all being symbols of the material human body which is both a prison and the object of the Work without which transcendence is impossible.

 

  • Saturn - corresponds to the element of Earth in Man - Physical Body (skeleton/flesh) - before everything else in man there is terrestrial being, a Saturnian or Saturn. Through him the Earth force acts; 

     

  • corresponds to Salt in the mineral kingdom

     

  • black lead = sacred black Stone = Saturn = Earth

     

  • black lead = fallen, impure body = "tomb of Osiris"

     

  • the hard and tangible [physical; corporeal] animal body, it manifests itself principally through the element of calcium (bones) and through horny materials, cartilage, tendons, etc;

     

  • is the entity of power of devouring and yearning, the root of thirst and desire;

     

  • = titatnic, tellurian element = primordial force of individuation;

     

  • is the eternal matrix of individual bodies and is the God who after having created them devours them. This is Saturn's double aspect; 

 

I'll be interested in your topic, however I'd also differentiate between restraint and rejection, the former is not enough as it is again just denial of want whereas the latter is the destruction of want which is the real requisite for transcendence, so it becomes a discussion on the difference in ascetic practices.

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There are four colors that we also revere, which are sky blue, red and white and black.

Sky Blue is and will always be the color of our people, it is evident on the flags of our people. It represents heavenly glory, Tengri himself. It is sacred, and the word blue "kök" holds a double meaning, it means "holy" at the same time.

Red is the color of blood, also denoted as a holy substance in our mythology, the Gods rejoice when it is spilled in their name, may it be a sacrificial animal, or a person himself, shedding blood in battle.

White on the other hand, represents purity and the realm of the clouds, it is the color of the moon, "Ay" and is the color of wedding gowns and tents, with all good omens associated with white.

 

On the other hand, black was mostly associated with the realm of the underworld. The shamans who frequently associated with the underworld were termed "black shamans" (qara qam), as their dress was mostly in dark colior, and they were responsible with accompanying troops to battle(until Chingiss Khan). Black was the color of war, ferocity, strength and destruction, which is why it was also used as a title to denote a particularly powerful, cruel or ferocious person.

This is the symbolism that the color black holds for me.

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Dont worry Alex, not everyone here is a plebian. A brilliant insight, and matching these ubiquitous colours to the alchemical stages is a good connection.

On a more prosaic lebel, groups such as the SS used black because it commands an altar of authority, supposedly.

BTW my mask has a skull on it, I'm still cool right?

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Dont worry Alex, not everyone here is a plebian.

aren't you an obnoxious twat

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Dont worry Alex, not everyone here is a plebian. A brilliant insight, and matching these ubiquitous colours to the alchemical stages is a good connection.

On a more prosaic lebel, groups such as the SS used black because it commands an altar of authority, supposedly.

BTW my mask has a skull on it, I'm still cool right?

 

Do you ever cease kissing ass?

 

Black was the color of war, ferocity, strength and destruction, which is why it was also used as a title to denote a particularly powerful, cruel or ferocious person.

 

I see, that explains all those personalities called Kara (Black), like Kara George Petrovich.

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For us Fascists wearing the mask becomes/must be understood as something else or as something more than just prudent action of self-preservation against the System while we lead our struggle.

 

Foremost it becomes a means of symbolizing the eternal nature of our ideals - they cannot be expressed by any one man and thus cannot have any one face define them, we do honor those who have lead us in the temporal struggle as Heroes but even so they cannot represent the entirety of our worldview unless we talk about the Emperor of the World, however even he must pass as a material being and thus a new one would appear over time, meaning that faces still fade. The mask thus represents the eternal character of our worldview and defines us as members of the Invisible Army who hold the Invisible Banner - the mask then holds the same symbolic principle as those two concepts.

 

 

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