Love and Hate

[Александр Славрос 8,499]

Despite the title this isn't exactly the same as what has already been said with all our discussions of Love and Hate and all the banner quotes we have that deal with that dynamic. I actually wanted to come up with something more original for the title but meh why even?

 

One of the reasons I've been spamming these topics is that I couldn't get back to my proper reading routine for a while now so this way I'm sort of making up for the delay in research. I'm still stuck reading Evola's "The Doctrine of Awakening" on Buddhism, however that's not to say that even reading a little in a long time doesn't contribute greatly, immediate example right now: read up in this book about the Buddhist conception of Love, the original meaning put behind that word and not the degenerate earth-mother hippie degenerate understanding of it which makes Buddhism so appealing to the flower-child crowd of imbeciles, same situation is applicable to Buddhist understanding of Joy/happiness but we'll talk about Love as the consequences in interpretation for our temporal struggle are much more insightful and interesting.

 

 

Here the distinction is between natural and supernatural love, between love based on the senses and love based on will and liberty. The former is, in fact, conditioned by feeling and is not free. since it does not stir until confronted by an object corresponding to a tendency; for this reason, when the object changes or when the mind alters its outlook, the love decreases or gives place to another feeling. In this form of love the individual, in fact, only loves himself or, more correctly, it is the samsāric being in him that loves; and this is so not only with lustful love but also with sublimated forms of love and affection. This is all part of the world of dukkha. it is an alteration, a bond, a disturbance of the spirit. The Ariyan path of awakening does not recognize love in this sense, and regards it in all its forms as a limitation and an imperfection.
 

Different is amor intellectualis, which, though preserving the characteristics of an affective state sui generis, is based not on sensibility but, as we have said, on will and

liberty. In Christian theology this is "loving all creatures in God"; which means that we here remember each individual's transcendental source, liking in him that which he is in the impersonal, metaphysical sense, and resolutely excluding any like or dislike proceeding from our particular nature. In this case liberty of spirit triumphs over the conditioned character of the senses, and love becomes the purer and the sign of higher liberty the less it depends upon particular satisfactions and attachment to single beings.

Only if we think of love in these terms can we understand that its value is simply instrumental and cathartic: in the ladder of Buddhist realizations it takes its place simply

as the equivalent of the earlier jhāna, that is to say, of the contemplative simplifications designed to remove the limitation of the individual and to neutralize the "five bonds."

 

The reason I bring up this difference is not the same as why Evola brings it up, as he is explaining the Buddhist teaching for transcendence where the subject is rejection all samsaric anchors to the material world.

 

What I have come to think about based on this distinction has to do with our temporal struggle against the world of falsehoods. I have mentioned prior how we seek to serve the Truth in all things in life, thus there is a personal truth, a national truth, a racial truth and so on. These truths help make up that ultimate Truth that is the Cosmic Order of all things. When you take into consideration this differentiation between "profane" love and "spiritual" love we are presented with an entirely new view on Nationalism, Racism and even the struggle with SJW idiocy.

 

We've recently been discussing with Zeiger the issue of individuation and the Self. Individuation is what determines the nature of any given human being in the physical world, when spiritual energy is attracted to a very specific body that is the material symbol of the spiritual energies undergoing "binding" and individuation. These energies are of that individual's transcendental source that comes into question when we talk about "spiritual" love.

 

The final element that we must then consider is how in these teachings nobody is born by accident, as was said above energies seek the perfect physical symbol for themselves in a given individual. Nobody is born by accident to be of a certain sex, race, ethnicity or caste, it is all determined. In a traditional caste society to have gone out of your way to do something that is not the task of your caste immediately marked you as a pariah, an exile out of the caste system, the rule worked both on serfs trying to be something more and nobles trying to do something less and they could be ridiculed by everyone in the caste system, regardless if they were their equals, superiors or even inferiors, because they had committed a form of lie, a lie against that transcendental source, they had betrayed their own nature and their own truth and thus the ultimate Truth.

 

This, however, applies to not just castes but everything else, including race, ethnicity and sex. Which in turn gives presents a new dimension to our temporal attitude as Fascists to certain things. Being a race traitor is betrayal against the spiritual race and thus against the transcendental source that determined that spiritual race, not accepting your place in the racial hierarchy is the same as not accepting your place in the caste hierarchy. Being a traitor to your national truth is thus a betrayal of the transcendental source. Trying to pretend you are a different sex or gender or whatever is another form of the same betrayal.

 

All of these are lies, falsehoods and betrayals, but not simply against their temporal forms, but the transcendental energies behind all those things. We don't simply hate the traitors for what their acts mean in their temporal form, we also hate them because they betray their transcendental source, they are given in so much to their material bindings that they readily commit debilitating actions against their own nature, in which resides the transcendental energies that we love in that sense of spiritual love. They commit betrayal and subject to mutilation their spiritual sex, ethnicity and race.

 

These acts of betrayal are stabs in the back of that which we call nationhood or race in the much deeper sense, and thus we are provoked to extreme hatred for the samsaric, material, physical beings that have trapped in themselves these transcendental forces and then actively mutilate them. In this sense we get a new interpretation of "cutting out the cancer of the nation". By killing such beings, we release from their bindings the transcendental forces of our nation/race and allow them for a new chance to be individuated in someone more deserving.

 

Moderates and shills who had attempted to discredit Breivik for his actions say that killing people of your own nation is not nationalism, however in this deeper, spiritual context, doing so is one of the ultimate acts of love for your nation - it is not merely preventing degenerates and liberals from coming to power and making things worse in temporal affairs of the material world, it is also about freeing from their grasp that which we have a "spiritual" love for. The biological material comes second to the spiritual energies, thus giving new meaning to how we say that traitors to the nation and race are no longer part of it.

 

We hate them because they hurt that which we love, that which we share with them but they dare to defile and further still by defiling it they commit a lie against the ultimate Truth as well. The more they corrupt their nature the less human and more bestial they are.

 

Loving your nation is not just loving the physical body of the nation, but also that transcendental force behind it and its national truth that also reside within oneself.

 

Thus each of us speaks to the race traitors, to those who betray national truth and the ultimate Truth: I hate you because you have defiled that which resides within me and you, that which I love within you and me, that which I cherish and attempt to free from lies that seek to corrupt it, that which you have actively surrendered to those forces. To slay you would be to save your Self and everything that went into its creation, that which we share. You are a pariah, so I cast you out of the physical body of the nation and race, you are a liar, so I set the elements of Truth within you free. To slay you is a greater act of Justice than to slay an enemy that follows his own nature.

 

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The final element that we must then consider is how in these teachings nobody is born by accident, as was said above energies seek the perfect physical symbol for themselves in a given individual. Nobody is born by accident to be of a certain sex, race, ethnicity or caste, it is all determined. In a traditional caste society to have gone out of your way to do something that is not the task of your caste immediately marked you as a pariah, an exile out of the caste system, the rule worked both on serfs trying to be something more and nobles trying to do something less and they could be ridiculed by everyone in the caste system, regardless if they were their equals, superiors or even inferiors, because they had committed a form of lie, a lie against that transcendental source, they had betrayed their own nature and their own truth and thus the ultimate Truth.

 

this is a very simplistic way of thinking. in a traditional caste system, one could say you were born into a specific caste specifically to move beyond it. along the same lines, if you consider yourself "traditional", why were you born now? the rigidity hints more at an autistic need for categorization, repetition, uniformity etc than at real meaning. there is too much importance placed on where you come from and not enough on where you're going - without that piece you're getting a fatally incomplete picture of a person. this applies to the foundation of the rest of this post too.

[Александр Славрос 8,499]

The born now part may be associated with the Age of Heroes concept.

As for the rigidity - yeah I admit I may have presented that a bit too strict and there are examples of people moving beyond a caste they were born to but I'd more so associate it with how temporal structures are always imperfect so someone belonging to a certain spiritual caste may be in the wrong one temporally. But you can't extend it as far as the rest of the concepts that are part of biological manifestation unless you're ready to entertain trans-races and trans-ethnicities and finally just trannies. And where you come from is tied to where you are going, that's the idea of destiny as potential.

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The born now part may be associated with the Age of Heroes concept.

As for the rigidity - yeah I admit I may have presented that a bit too strict and there are examples of people moving beyond a caste they were born to but I'd more so associate it with how temporal structures are always imperfect so someone belonging to a certain spiritual caste may be in the wrong one temporally. But you can't extend it as far as the rest of the concepts that are part of biological manifestation unless you're ready to entertain trans-races and trans-ethnicities and finally just trannies. And where you come from is tied to where you are going, that's the idea of destiny as potential.

 

well let's present my captain obvious way of looking at things - whoever has merit has merit. there's a lot of statistical correlations, and here's a relevant, obvious one - exceptional people tend to have exceptional circumstances, they might have an exceptional amount of merit or be exceptional failures. a good way to sum this point up is I think fixating on how you define handles and heads instead of just calling a spade a spade is beside the point.

[Александр Славрос 8,499]

Something relevant that I forgot to include in the first place in the OP from Introduction to Magic:

 

 

The forces on which man depends are first of all of a psychic order, and second of an organic order. To the first is connected everything that is related to passions, feelings, beliefs, natural affections, traditions, blood ties, and so on. Ordinary man should never say, "I love," but, "Love loves through me." As the fire manifests itself in individual flames when the necessary conditions are present, likewise love (or better said, the being of love) manifests itself in individual beings who love with a love that transcends and transports them, in relation to which they are more or less passive. The same applies to hatred, fear, piety, etc. Nor is that all: every nation, every religion or traditional institution has its own "being"; the instinctive and deep reaction against an insult to one's country, faith, or customs is the reaction of such beings and not, as it is commonly assumed, an individual reaction, proper to a distinct and autonomous Self.

 

This ties into the topic by means of understanding what is a Nation's Truth and its fulfillment in the scheme of the universal Truth, thus affronts against the Nation's Truth can cause a reaction that is expressed through average people, the flip side being, arguably, how if someone is not manifesting that reaction is either a sign of being an individual of a higher order with potential for transcendence or simply someone who is not at all tied to the spiritual force of a Nation, once again pointing to a deeper interpretation of what it means to be a traitor to the nation or a race traitor.

[mengligiraykhan 933]

This too is both the source of my love and my hate. Personally, none of us can say that we have been specifically "wronged" by traitors and degenerates as in a physical sense, neither can we say that we love and cherish our race and its members because we personally know all of them. It is the essence(or the corruption of that essence) behind every kinsman, enemy and traitor that we either love or hate.