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Italian Fascist and Nationalist Movements

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Casapound are legendary.

Forza Nuova are ok, but they have ran out of steam a long while ago (i tink alot of their members have probably gone off to join a group that actually DOING something, like Casapound).

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Gianfranco Fini of the Alleanza Nazionale (AN) gutted the old Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI) of real Fascists and Nationalists, and turned it into a centre-right, liberal-conservative party. The traitor described Fascism as "evil".

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I haven't heard anything worthwhile from Forza Nuova in AGES.

Gianfranco Fini of the Alleanza Nazionale (AN) gutted the old Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI) of real Fascists and Nationalists, and turned it into a centre-right, liberal-conservative party. The traitor described Fascism as "evil".

To be honest with you, I think MSI were the only party with enough numbers to achieve anything note worthy. Too bad they merged with Alleanza Nazionale. Hell, even that merged with something worse (Il Popolo della Liberta' for Christ's sake)

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I'd like to tell you that, at the moment, I think that Forza Nuova is better than Casapound. But in the future who knows, maybe Casapound will start some serious changings.

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Why do you "...think that Forza Nuova is better than Casapound"?

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Why do you "...think that Forza Nuova is better than Casapound"?

It's just a feeling I've got, it seems to me that Forza Nuova are more into "serious business", while I don't know if Casapound will stay loyal to its principles when shit gets real.

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I agree that Forza Nuova strike me as "...more into serious business..." but Casapound certainly have the current momentum.

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Little peak at the Casapounds HQ with english subtitles.

 

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They didn't show all the good stuff, but the video is old. Should've taken pictures when I was given the tour.

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Haha what the hell.

 

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They aren't true comrades. CPI is full of nigger and it's allied with League Nord ( separatist party ) and Forza Nuova is a christian party.

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They aren't true comrades. CPI is full of nigger and it's allied with League Nord ( separatist party )

 

Thank you for that comment brah. Im sure you have sauce of course.

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They aren't true comrades. CPI is full of nigger

 

Prove it you retard, unless you want la cinghiamattanza on your ass

 

Fucking nerds always have some shit to say about anyone who's actually doing something positive irl. Like that fag from "Nationalist Asatru News" who called NA jewish. 

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Di Stefano said: "Racism and Antisemitism make us vomit"

 

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Here in Italian https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t848436-38/

CPI: "We aren't racist or negationist, we have black militants too" "We have not only black militants but colombians, moroccans and arabians too"

 

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Fiore with his mixed grandson

 

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Here Casa Pound that helps children of immigrants

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It seems Apollo may have a point.

http://www.icare.to/article.php?id=45185〈=en

 

 

" The group defends Di Canio's claim that you can support fascism without being racist, but behind the group's cultural front lie the usual hallmarks of the far right: rallying recruits around immigration and warning of an impending "war" between poor Europeans and migrants as the country's unemployment rate rises to 11 per cent and 37 per cent for young people. Its statements echo the words of Paolo Di Canio.

"Fascism was the most stable system Italy has ever had, it is natural and you must accept it. We oppose immigration but not immigrants; we are fascist and not racist." In 2011 a market trader, Gianluca Casseri, shot dead two Senegalese immigrants in Florence. He had close links to CasaPound and Italy’s cultural fascist movement. In the aftermath of the attack the daughter of poet Ezra Pound moved to stop the group using his name.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/06/italy-fascists-true-mussolini-ideology

 

Mussolini's racial laws were "a mistake," says Di Stefano. "We believe in the national community and the Jews in Italy are part of that." And as for Pound's own antisemitism, "at the time it was very common throughout the world".

I'm sure a lot of this could just be realpolitik, but it should be looked in to nevertheless. 

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You're Italian so you should know that explicitly antisemitic movements are illegal in Italy, as are any recreation of the PNF. You're no different than any conspiracy shill taking things out of context entirely. I've talked to plenty of Casapound militants and they are entirely based, even if the movement tries to be more presentable to the media, in their blogs they revere nazis and Hitler. Not to mention they are constantly active and providing fascism with the best face it's had in decades. They make art, music, have MMA tournaments, get outdoors, and do good work for the world, without self-interest and with full commitment to their ideals.

Fascism is the ideology most hated by the modern world, and it can't exist in a vacuum. There will always be a need for front organizations to conceal or provide for underground activism in lieu of real political power. Maybe you would realize this if you took your special snowflake "national socialism" out of the basement, as the fascists you for some reason despise do every single day. Tu sei il destra terminale.

Here's a particularly astute analysis, surprisingly from a liberal shill organization in Norway: https://www.hate-speech.org/make-it-new/

And an interview with Iannone: http://www.radixjournal.com/altright-archive/altright-archive/main/the-magazine/in-the-house-of-pound

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I do find it humourous that with all the spergs who go on about Italian Fascism, we get a guy who's from Italy who says it sucks and prefers NS.

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I do find it humourous that with all the spergs who go on about Italian Fascism, we get a guy who's from Italy who says it sucks and prefers NS.

Implying he's not actually the spergiest of them all

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I do find it humourous that with all the spergs who go on about Italian Fascism, we get a guy who's from Italy who says it sucks and prefers NS.

 

What if in Italy being a Nazi is the same as being a "classical fascist" everywhere else?

 

-I'm a national-socialist, not a fascist, if you will.

-Scusi? Look'ata dis meatball over here miei amici! What'a fucking sperg! Luigi! Com'ere and see dis tist right'a here!

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It's autism stemming from the same place as any liberal degeneration; a desire to be seen as anything other than your origin, a cosmopolitanism. I can understand it somewhat in Americans, but in a country with a long fascist history and multiple active fascist movements it is unforgivable.

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It's autism stemming from the same place as any liberal degeneration; a desire to be seen as anything other than your origin, a cosmopolitanism. I can understand it somewhat in Americans, but in a country with a long fascist history and multiple active fascist movements it is unforgivable.

Because some people are scared of their origins and of what they have been told at school. The point is that there is so much ignorance about fascism that most of the time people stop on the surface of things. And this applies both to those who attack fascism without knowing it and to those who think they are fascist and sperg around. As I said multiple times, this is the most important problem. Also it seems like most of the italians are in a sort of inferiority complex and constantly think they are not good enough because "ayy mussoleene lost a war we are unequipped we suck, gimme the pizza Antonio!". The economical situation of the country might be bad, but researching improvement outside of our roots is the most blatant offense we can direct toward our culture.

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