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[Vladimir]

This has been in the works for a month or two, but it is finally done.
http://fascists.zxq....e_White_Man.pdf

Official Iron March propaganda^ "An Open Letter to the WHITE MAN"

It has been made as bold and direct as possible, to appeal to any white man. Give the left something to cry about, if there was ever something they could call 'hate' this is it. Thanks to Ben for writing the preface, introducing the work to Kai Murros, who approved, and being a general spiritual guide in our mighty battle against zog. Thanks to jacob for providing ideas for the tone and visual style of the book through his Journal Reaktion. Thanks to Growth of the Soil, for spellcheck and edit.

Comments and criticism are welcome. You are encouraged to spread this around, in any medium, but print in particular. Mah original characters, do not steal, but you can use any part of this without telling me as long as that use furthers a common cause with this work. In fact you are encouraged not to mention the source at all- that is really irrelevant.



Salve victoria!

[American_Blackshirt]

I read the rough of this, It is brilliant and is a good red-pill bomb and awesome primer for people just getting into the cause.

I am eagerly awaiting the storm that will happen on IM after more people read it.

[De Hertog]

That image has spelling errors.

Let's see the document though.

Edit:

I find the criticism against the pen a contradiction given that the thing in itself is a letter.
It'd be more appropiate to say that, while the pen is not a sword, it creates blades or weakens them.

At the same time, criticizing Democracy in favor of Dictatorships might too seem contradictory seeing how Democracy in itself IS dictatorship, too.

I also find the emphasis on Christianity quite a negative thing; despite my own anti-christian views it is best to avoid mentions of Christianity and such values simply because discussing them would require a whole new letter, just to that topic. As it stands, I cannot support the document. Why attack the Jews while supporting one of their sects? Christianity is the forefather of Marxism. You even mentioned "going to heaven" too...

This text is great but sometimes it feels like I'm reading some odd gospel.

Though now I got to a part in which the notion of Christ is redefined, and addresses such concerns...

Still, it doesn't make sense to me. It's trying to bring forth the European-inspired aspects of Christianity, but if you're going to do so, why not go straight to the source? Otherwise we'd be like the "fascists" that think democracy actually can be made to work, or like the Communists that denounce the CCCP and want to give it another try. If we're going to be people of Action we must cut the rotten tree at its root, and learn to abandon something that we held dear rather than trying to salvage corrupted bits. Only then we can move on.

I understand that appealing to "true christianity" is interesting in order to galvanize people to our cause, but ultimately that is self-betrayal.

This text is so great, I love it, but it feels that the author tried and slipped in his version of Christianity like Marx slipped in whatever he thought of the "workers", and tries to prop up such ideas, which in turn become a partial blindfold between the reader and the true message that the text DOES contain, which I would endorse.

I'm sorry to be a bit of an asshole; but I have to speak my mind, otherwise I'd be useless myself. Which is part of the point of the text too. At the same time, it would be useless to YOU if I were not to speak these words.

If you want to oppose the Jews, you cannot worship one of them, nor their god. CONSISTENCY.

I'm not necessarily saying you should be specifically antichristian, but that leaving the cross at the door before writing the text would for the time being prove beneficial.

Quote: All cardes of the
party are comrades, and serve complementary roles

That's just a typo, I think.

Right after that you write Mannerbund, you ought to use männerbund or maennerbund.

I'm not sure about how I feel about the Swastika, you make great points about it, but at the same time it also feels like we might need a new symbol. Perhaps someone will eventually create one. I do not know.

[Goyles]

 De Hertog, on 25 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

That image has spelling errors.

Let's see the document though.

the white man spells first and asks questions later.

[Vladimir]

 Benjamin Noyles, on 25 November 2012 - 08:39 PM, said:

the white man spells first and asks questions later.

the feel when you will never get this joke until you read the book,

I was trying to be brash and decisive. Why Ben WHYYYY????

[Hitler was a sensitive man]

I've PM'd my suggestions to you over the past couple of weeks and other material you could have added, but I think you nailed it by making it short and not going off on longer tangents; something small and bite sized like this is ideal to begin with. There can be many more works in the future to put this other info to work. The anti-semitism was necessary and not too heavily laid. I think you let them off quite easily infact, lol.

All in all it was good. I think a distinction could have been made from kike stock swindling, open border, multicultural "capitalism" and productive private enterprise; genuine white man's capitalism as encouraged by George Lincoln Rockwell and Ben Klassen, but it wasn't entirely necessary at this point and I'll probably tie it into my own work in progress on shameless white supremacy and traditional conservatism.

[Љотићевaц]

Jesus Christ! This is so Aryan my hair has gone yellow. Now filled with Aryan willing and decisiveness (andbadspelling) i shall go forth and save the race!

[Siege]

I did a quick skim over this and thought what parts I did read were great. It's simple, edgy, and has a healthy anti-intellectualism to it.

I will read this more thoroughly later, and possibly distribute in my area when I get the chance.

[Vladimir]

 Danny_Ljotic, on 25 November 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

Jesus Christ! This is so Aryan my hair has gone yellow. Now filled with Aryan willing and decisiveness (andbadspelling) i shall go forth and save the race!

If you notice any spelling errors be sure to note them and send them to me.

 Confederate, on 25 November 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

You paid $700 for a DNA test?!

No, but torren did (hint; that was the joke.)

 De Hertog, on 25 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I find the criticism against the pen a contradiction given that the thing in itself is a letter.
It'd be more appropiate to say that, while the pen is not a sword, it creates blades or weakens them.

At the same time, criticizing Democracy in favor of Dictatorships might too seem contradictory seeing how Democracy in itself IS dictatorship, too.

You are misinterpreting both of these, I never denied knowledge was a powerful weapon to be used, only that action was most important. I never argued in favor of a dictatorship either, the Pentti Linkola quote offered a philosophical muse, but was not introduced as a practical concept.

 De Hertog, on 25 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I also find the emphasis on Christianity quite a negative thing; despite my own anti-christian views it is best to avoid mentions of Christianity and such values simply because discussing them would require a whole new letter, just to that topic. As it stands, I cannot support the document. Why attack the Jews while supporting one of their sects? Christianity is the forefather of Marxism. You even mentioned "going to heaven" too...

This text is great but sometimes it feels like I'm reading some odd gospel.

Though now I got to a part in which the notion of Christ is redefined, and addresses such concerns...

Yes I am not a fan of the noble savage myth, nor its delusions of grandeur as being a religion. The Jews are attacked as a people, Christianity is upheld as the bedrock of white society and white culture. Muh paganism is estranged from it and essentially irrelevant, the hipster neopagan movement is more pseudo-intellectualism, and is literally a bunch of nerds stabbing in the dark, completely separated from 'their people.' Christianity is a faith people can genuinely believe in, which I have seen through experience. From that same experience, Paganism has nothing to do with that, it is a spergy circle jerk, and I am not interested in it.

Faith has to be real, it has to be raised from birth, it has to represent a community. I am quite religious, I see religious purpose in everything, but that was not the central element at any point. You are missing the main calling, which is racial.

 De Hertog, on 25 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Still, it doesn't make sense to me. It's trying to bring forth the European-inspired aspects of Christianity, but if you're going to do so, why not go straight to the source? Otherwise we'd be like the "fascists" that think democracy actually can be made to work, or like the Communists that denounce the CCCP and want to give it another try. If we're going to be people of Action we must cut the rotten tree at its root, and learn to abandon something that we held dear rather than trying to salvage corrupted bits. Only then we can move on.

I understand that appealing to "true christianity" is interesting in order to galvanize people to our cause, but ultimately that is self-betrayal.

This text is so great, I love it, but it feels that the author tried and slipped in his version of Christianity like Marx slipped in whatever he thought of the "workers", and tries to prop up such ideas, which in turn become a partial blindfold between the reader and the true message that the text DOES contain, which I would endorse.

If you do not like the church, that is fine. The Christian faith itself is something different, it is the holy pursuit of perfection, balance and harmony, absolutely essential to civilization. It is about pristine order, and vision, but it is not something I can convey, which is why I did not write to convert anyone, you have to do that on your own. There is no way for me to explain it; you either have it or you don't have it, but all three of your analogies are completely unsound, your syllogism that Christianity somehow leads to Marxism, is also based on false premises. Unfortunately some big names like Hitler played around with it, but I do not really care. The church and European culture are absolutely inseparable, take them apart and you have nigger-like tribal squabble. Perhaps this will explain to you http://aryanism.net/...sm-vs-idealism/

 De Hertog, on 25 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

If you want to oppose the Jews, you cannot worship one of them, nor their god. CONSISTENCY.

Christ was a heretic against the Jewish faith which is why he was hung on the cross at the insistence of Jews. He was born of a virgin signing his divine origin, he has no human roots. He is the very concept of Aryandom, in human form, by no means either Jew or Gentile.

[Hitler was a sensitive man]

As I've said and elaborated on in the 5 favourite people thread, I'm not the most pro-Christian nor the most pro-Jesus person; but it can be worked with, it's easy as fuck to work in an anti-semitic, racist, ethnic nationalist, patriarchist and pro-private enterprise/work ethic into it*. The church sure as hell has its use in society, much more than state welfare in my opinion. I think the blend of Christianity with European paganism and its retained Babyloanian christian roots (the church) made for a good balance.

I'm of the same opinion as Hitler, Christianity will crumble away eventually and I think that's for the best.


http://bible.cc/2_th...onians/3-10.htm
- "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

As for whether or not Jesus is a Jew, my research leads me to believe that if he ever even existed, he certainly wasn't a Jew as we know them. We'll save the theology for another thread.

[Noidberg]

Going to read this book now, although, why the Swastika? Surely it's better to have another symbol or none for the ones going into it. Would also make the book look revolutionary, strong and confident instead of a mere copy of wet dreams about the third reich.

[Љотићевaц]

 Владимир_Борисов, on 25 November 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

If you notice any spelling errors be sure to note them and send them to me.

I'll have a more thorough read of it tommorrow. I had a quick glance through it and it seems pretty fucking decent. Very well laid out, lots of quick statements and talking points, red pill galore.

[Hitler was a sensitive man]

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Going to read this book now, although, why the Swastika? Surely it's better to have another symbol or none for the ones going into it. Would also make the book look revolutionary, strong and confident instead of a mere copy of wet dreams about the third reich.

Besides the cross/sun wheel I can think of no other piece of symbolism which would be as aesthetically attractive and spiritually connected to the strong willed white man than the swastika.

Take heed of what Rockwell had to say about the Swastika:

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The Swastika




The political drones, profiteers, prostitutes and cowards scoot with their tails between their legs from this hooked cross, as the devil does from holy water.

On the other hand, the Swastika has an irresistible attraction for the kind of daring, bold, devil-may-care fighting young men we need. In America, most of them are simply "nigger-haters," because of their pure White man's instinct. When they learn the Jews' part in the disgraceful Negro situation, they become "Nazis" in minutes. Then it is the work of only months until they also understand the deeper significance, the idealism, and the true aims of the Movement.

But even more important than these advantages, the blood-soaked Swastika has a supernatural effect on Jews.

It is after all only a few black lines – but it drives Jews out of their usual sly and calculating frame of mind and makes them hysterical and foolish. To them, it is not just the lines, but the awful threat of ruthless exposure, swift justice and terrible vengeance which their guilty consciences tell them they richly deserve. It is like a picture of the electric chair to a hunted murderer.

A calm, calculating Jew is the most dangerous beast on the face of the earth. By the exercise of his devilish, perverted but brilliant reason, the Jew has almost mastered all the rest of us. But a hysterical, screaming Jew, out of his mind with hate and fear of punishment for his crimes, is helpless putty in the hands of a calculating National Socialist.

We have proved this time and again – when Jewish councils have spent millions of dollars to spread the word among Jews to ignore us. But the hordes of guilty little sinners can't do it! When they see that Swastika and hear us praising Adolf Hitler and describing the gas chambers for traitors, they become the screaming, wild ghetto Jews who have eternally blown up their victories at the last moment by their insane passions of hate and revenge.

The result is the lifeblood of a political movement: publicity!

In spite of the Jewish domination of all the media of public information, the parading of Swastikas and National Socialists in public streets cannot be hidden or ignored without giving the game away. They can suppress the news, to be sure. But then too many people realize their press power and censorship.

And when the young Movement is able to force publication of its existence on the giant national TV networks, in magazines, press, etc., – it serves as a clarion call to the frustrated millions who are looking for such a movement. It is only thus that we have been able to contact thousands of people all over the world who have never before been in any "patriot" outfit, but couldn't resist the American Nazi Party and the World Union of National Socialists.

The Swastika and Hitler, far from being millstones, are actually the answer to the eternal problem of the "right-wing" – money!

When you don't have money for paper, meeting halls, etc., – as our side never does – you can go into the streets and march and distribute homemade handbills and picket – for nothing. The Jews go wild, attack – and you then have free use of millions of dollars' worth of Jewish TV, newspapers, magazines, etc.! Of course, you may get bloodied and have to sit in jail awhile recuperating. But this is a small price to pay for the astonishing results.

In addition to the free publicity attendant on open operation as a "Nazi," you also find that the very audacity of the thing will attract the young fighting men you need, even though they know nothing and care less about the politics of the business. They admire raw courage and daring. Later, when they have come to know the facts a little better, they will fight for ideals and the White man. But until then, these valuable protectors of your free speech will fight just for fun.

Above all, the Swastika will save you from the fundamental error of the "right-wing" – that sweet reason will change the world and save us from the Jewish tyrants.

Reason is still an infant in human affairs, a precious and rare development found in the mutational brains of an infinitesimal minority of Homo Sapiens. And even the few geniuses able to exercise genuine, independent reason are almost entirely incapable of acting in accordance with the dictates of that reason – which is one of the reasons so many of them end up as "failures" in a world which does not appreciate them or their reason.

It is FORCE, POWER, STRENGTH which rules the world, from the ebb and flow of the tides to the decision of your neighbor to join the Rotary. Only a negligible fringe of oddball humans "changes its mind" as a result of being convinced by a superior argument. The overwhelming masses, including the masses of today's "intellectuals," change their minds only in order to conform. In other words, the minds of the vast majority always bow to the strongest opinion – the opinion which brings rewards and avoids punishments.

The "right-wing" examines its reasons and arguments and facts and finds them true and good – as they may be. They then become outraged that the slobs next door cannot see and appreciate this "rightness" and, very probably, throw them out of the house for preaching "hate."

But this is only as things are. The slobs will hold whatever opinion seems to show the most strength and will to power. They are completely, hopelessly female in their approach to "reason," and always, always prefer strength to "rightness."

When they say "no" to our Swastika and National Socialism, they are only the eternal female saying "no," but meaning: "If you accept my 'no,' then you are a weakling and have no right to my favors. Let us see if you have the manhood and strength and genius to make me say 'yes.'"

They "hate" us now because we are weak and powerless. All the reason in the world will never make them love us or our ideas in any guise, no matter how we try to sugar-coat them, until we COMMAND THEIR RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR OUR WILL, OUR GUTS, OUR FORCE! As stupid as they are, their instincts in smelling force and strength are still pure, and the attempt to sneak National Socialist ideas in the guise of "patriot" leagues and other nice, "safe" groups very properly repulses them as being the actions of cowards and sneaks.

To hell with the sneaky, "safer" approaches! They get us persecuted every bit as much as the direct, open approach, and they doom us to miserable, sneaking failure every time.

If we are to be the last of the White men who conquered the world; if we are finally to be overwhelmed by a pack of rats, let us at least face the death of our race as our ancestors faced their death – like MEN. Let us not crawl down amongst the rats begging for mercy or trying to out-sneak them and pretend to be rats ourselves!

Let us stand on the scaffold of history – if hang we must – like the martyrs of Nuremberg, tall and proud! Is life so sweet, is comfort so precious and a job in a Jewish counting house so sacred that we are afraid to grasp the mighty hand of ADOLF HITLER reaching down to us out of our glorious past? Again, to hell with sneaking and "safety"!

It is part of the Jews to be sneaky and sly. The genius of our people has ever been joyous strength, robust forcefulness, directness, manly courage and flaming heroism.

When the Jews, with their economic terrorism, jails, bullies and hangmen, scare the White man into laying down his cudgel and his open defiance, and goad him into trying to out-sneak Jewish tyranny, the Jews have completely emasculated the once-strong White man, and doomed him to dishonor and defeat. The White man can never win by sneaking.

In the dawn of Nordic civilization, lesser races used to cringe in their rude huts and pray: "Lord, save us from the fury of the men of the North!"

It was that kind of man who built Western civilization.

If civilization is now to be saved from the swarms of degenerate Jews, their cannibal accomplices and their unspeakably depraved "liberal" friends – it will be that kind of man who will save it – never sneaks!


About the final third of Lincoln Rockwell's In Hoc Signo Vinces ('In this sign we conquer'), 1960.

[Љотићевaц]

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Going to read this book now, although, why the Swastika? Surely it's better to have another symbol or none for the ones going into it. Would also make the book look revolutionary, strong and confident instead of a mere copy of wet dreams about the third reich.

CC or bust.


Or if you dont want any SF conotations use a normal sun-wheel. Gotta say, as far as serious political propaganda goes I wouldn't go near that kind of swozzy (I suppose its all taste and asthetics though).

[Hitler was a sensitive man]

The above image isn't bad either, but I certainly know why Vlad used the swastika. He wants to attract those who aren't afraid of the swastika, those who aren't afraid to be called Nazis or connect to the Nazis.

[Noidberg]

My point was, more or less, that surely it is a bad idea to scare away the man before he is in your grip, so to speak. You would not pull out your gun and aim it at a man coming towards you, he would run away. What you would do is to get close to him, grab him and then aim the gun at him to lead him to safety.

Would Hitler used the swastika is the masses saw it as a symbol of pure evil?

We can not afford to scare people away, if we do so they will eventually run away to his doom. I am not adovacting cowardness, or not being what we are. I advocate adaption. If you were going to a ball you would have your nicest clothes on you, while if you would go to the bar you would have your casual clothes.

[Hitler was a sensitive man]

Fair point.

Speaking of symbolism, has anyone seen the art work in the MILLENNIAL WOTANVOLK EDITION (1999) of Might is Right?
Really well done and applied.

[Goyles]

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

My point was, more or less, that surely it is a bad idea to scare away the man before he is in your grip, so to speak. You would not pull out your gun and aim it at a man coming towards you, he would run away. What you would do is to get close to him, grab him and then aim the gun at him to lead him to safety.

Would Hitler used the swastika is the masses saw it as a symbol of pure evil?

We can not afford to scare people away, if we do so they will eventually run away to his doom. I am not adovacting cowardness, or not being what we are. I advocate adaption. If you were going to a ball you would have your nicest clothes on you, while if you would go to the bar you would have your casual clothes.

gods sake, you are yapping on about it like nobody thought of that before.
1. What rock have you been living under?
http://ironmarch.org...__fromsearch__1
http://ironmarch.org...-5/page__st__20
2. It is the premise of the entire book - please read it before having an opinon, or don't.

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

Would Hitler used the swastika is the masses saw it as a symbol of pure evil

Yes. You havn't read mein kampf either

[Loved I Not Honour More]

The title of this book is "An Open Letter to the White Man". This is a work intended to hit you over the head with racist, National Socialist ideas. If there is any context in which not using the swastika is cowardly and counterproductive, it is this context. If you don't like this sort of thing, that's fine, but write your own book instead of changing this one.

[Vladimir]

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Going to read this book now, although, why the Swastika? Surely it's better to have another symbol or none for the ones going into it. Would also make the book look revolutionary, strong and confident instead of a mere copy of wet dreams about the third reich.

"The Swastika is the transgressive symbol of the modern world." -George Lincoln Rockwell

 Nebuchadnezzar II, on 26 November 2012 - 12:34 AM, said:

The above image isn't bad either, but I certainly know why Vlad used the swastika. He wants to attract those who aren't afraid of the swastika, those who aren't afraid to be called Nazis or connect to the Nazis.

That is exactly it.

 Noidberg, on 26 November 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

My point was, more or less, that surely it is a bad idea to scare away the man before he is in your grip, so to speak. You would not pull out your gun and aim it at a man coming towards you, he would run away. What you would do is to get close to him, grab him and then aim the gun at him to lead him to safety.

Would Hitler used the swastika is the masses saw it as a symbol of pure evil?

We can not afford to scare people away, if we do so they will eventually run away to his doom. I am not adovacting cowardness, or not being what we are. I advocate adaption. If you were going to a ball you would have your nicest clothes on you, while if you would go to the bar you would have your casual clothes.

The conditions have changed significantly. This is James Mason in Siege;

Quote

Phase One Has Phased Out
Hardly an individual receiving this bulletin will be unfamiliar with the name at the top [National Socialist Liberation Front]. Lately with an
organization of the "Mass Strategy" set, and currently on my own at last, unlike all other ventures of the past this one will succeed or fall flat
due to the abilities or lack of them of just one person: ME. No more excuses or dependence on different backers or frontmen, both of which
have a way of never failing to screw up at the critical time. There will be those who will say that I've been able to go through fronts and frontmen
like a snake his skin. True, up to a point, but that has ended now and for two reasons: one, there are no more of them left; and two,
those surviving that I am no longer with or have never been with are still getting nowhere at a blinding rate of speed while the conditions in
the country and in the world are becoming more and more revolutionary. I have been increasingly alarmed at this trend for quite a while, and
my nerves won't allow me to sit back and continue to play more games while the storm clouds build.
I've been associated with a lot of Nazi periodicals in the past. Some were original, some were assumed and some were resurrected. Some I
lifted from others and some were lifted from me. I've been cheered and condemned. I've been called magnificent and I've been called
everything from "white nigger" to a "slime-dripping reptile". As stated, I've been with the Mass Strategists– started out there a long time ago–,
gone with the Armed Struggle, and back again with other Mass Strategists. Personally I must say that I strongly favor the Armed Struggle. In
format I've issued everything from downright rags to thick journals to tabloid newspapers. I've learned that, surprisingly, it doesn't matter
much what the format is or its appearance. Not even what you say or how you say it. Just that you know what the hell you're talking about
and who you are addressing it to.
Why, for example, talk out of the side of your mouth in legalistic euphemisms appealing to the noble instincts of a handful of Right Wing
types while the bottom line must always come down to revolution, which scares them off? Why indeed break your back trying to get up a
"mass" publication when you know damned good and well that the masses will never see it? A useless ploy directed at a useless bunch. (Or
could it possibly be that the whole point to this nonsense is some sort of personal thrill or kick and, if luck is with you, maybe an easy living
on the side?) You can't try to do two contradictory things at once in a too-little-too-late fashion. But that's the history of the U.S. Right Wing of
which the Nazis are a part in all but ideology. The whole basis of the Right Wing was to try and "hold", defend a shrinking perimeter,
shouting "Never!", anti-this and anti-that. One can only be shoved over the brink so many times, or trampled and annihilated up to a certain
point when one must admit that, if it was a defensive struggle that was being waged, it was lost a little while ago.

 Malhard, on 26 November 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

wat

That was a joke, alluding to a philosophy that has been expressed in this thread already;
Oy vey, Christianity is a Jewish plot! Oy vey, bow to zog, goyim. lol this is what Christians actually believe.

 Nebuchadnezzar II, on 26 November 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

Fair point.

Speaking of symbolism, has anyone seen the art work in the MILLENNIAL WOTANVOLK EDITION (1999) of Might is Right?
Really well done and applied.

WHAT THIS!?
It is so over-the-top, clumsy and cartoonish. I think there is a viking at some point with the 14 words on his fucking belt. That is specifically why we tried to be conservative and minimalistic with this; the text speaks for itself. The cover is supposed to convey a message but it is at least not so blatantly 2by4 on the head simple, and it is well done and serious.
Yeah, avoid that, these people literally made a joke out of Might is Right, which was brilliant.